NIGHTMARE TD5

I stupidly sold my faithful Isuzu Trooper and bought a Td5 18 months ago.


Whilst with any 2nd hand car you can expect to encounter problems - I was not ready for this !


So far here are are some of the problems we have /are experiencing ......


1) The back brake discs went - Just as we were on our way in the morning to take my friend to the airport as she was emigrating to Australia.


2)The alarm persistantly started going off - so much so I was scared to lock it and thought I would rather take a chance that no one would steal it


3) When it rains the sun roof leaks UNBELIEVEABLY -It pours in.


4)The wind caught the back door (our fault) - Door had to be replaced  


5)Steering started feeling dodgy - New power steering replaced


6)Radiator went - new one replaced


7)We were advised the turbo on its way out - too bad it can wait!


8)Key snapped in the ignition - was quite pleased tho as you could still put other half in and it would work - but then ...


9)...The immobiliser went so car undriveable and had to be towed away for 2nd time (first when on way to take mate to airport)


10)Went to put a small amount of turf in the boot and the car went down and didn't pump back up until engine on - hole in the suspension


11) Brake lights permanently on


12)Back seats in boot now won't go into the sitting position


13)ahhh the latest one the gear stick a bit sticky but clutch seems fine will wait and see as in garage again at the mo.


Wish I'd steered well clear of theses amazingly crap vehicles - believe the rumors they are total rubbish - avoid like the plague and buy Japanese!!!!!!!!!!!

MORE PROBLEMS .....

More to add - We are loving the rain pouring in with the current weather at the moment - but to add to our list the electrics on the back light have gone now (no such luck as a simple bulb replacement) and a horrible sqeeky noise was heard yesterday .... yep we broke down AGAIN - Its the fuel pump :0( - 3RD TIME THIS YEAR WE HAVE TO TOW THE PIECE OF CRAP

02 Dodgy Disco

I too am in the nightmare situation of owning a dodgy Disco. Bought it 2nd hand this year and have already spent £2,200 trying to keep it road worthy. The worst was when the gears went towing a caravan on the bleakest part of the M62. It still leaks oil and I need a rain hat and mack when it rains! It's broken my heart, my will and my piggy bank with no sign of any let up on the expenditure. Selling it is not an option as I'd lose so much money. I thought I was buying something that would last - I'm beginning to think it's now a case of till death us do part!

fuel pump again

I love my disco its a 2001 TD5 s I love it to bits and like the love of a good woman it has cost me. I am now about to fit the 2nd fuel pump in 18 months gets gunked up garage says its bio fuel that does it..wonder if its possible to wash it(the pump) had track rod replaced starter motor anti roll replaced all brake discs have now been replaced and on 3rd set of tyres having done 60k miles in 5 years BUT it can go any where and tow anything its getting a bit battered now but sell it NEVER

I'm NOT alone!

Baught a second hand TD5 (auto) February 2010, since had the following: - 1'st breakdown the day we got it, mechanic came out to check but it started again after a while (could not find problem) - Wife went to work late one night and could not get it out of drive - mechanic had to come a do a quick fix (had to replace some pin or something underneath the gearbox that broke) - From the start one of the back seats would not come up (Fixed it by opening the mechanism and spraying with Q20 oil - now seems happy) - On our way on a trip the gearbox died with gearbox oil all over the show (had to get the car towed by insurance company) - cost me THOUSANDS to get it on the road again (gearbox oil pump replaced) - Break lights stays on - still have to replace switch behind break pedal (resetting the switch seems to work for a while) - This weekend the air suspension decided to die (compressor won't shut down). Tried to remove the compressor but could not disconnect the last pipe - reinstalled and now magically everything works again (wonder for how long)! I'm going on a trip again this weekend but I think I'll rather use another vehicle - don't think I can trust this bugger! As someone said in one of the forums -it's a great vehicle until something breaks! I mean, I have had the vehicle for less than seven months and - already two MAJOR breakdowns and a few "minor" ones. Makes you think the jokes they make about Landrover is no joke at all!!!!! Another guy told me the other day that if you want to drive a Landrover, buy two. While the one will be in for repairs, you can drive the other one. Then, swop ...

NIGHTMARE TD5

Such stories are always bad news and of course the owner has every reason to be upset (to put it mildly). However, these vehicles are not all bad at all. I have a (now 3 years retired and awaiting "old timer" status) Range Rover 3.9. Built in 1987 and converted in 1989 by LR as a 3.9 prototype, I purchased it with only 4,500 km on the clock in 1991. 640,000 km later it still has all its original major parts - including the clutch plates and shock absorbers. I've just replaced the usual wear-and-tear brake blocks, hoses, spark plugs, etc. It's main problem has always been that it'll pass anything on the road - except a petrol pump! We now have a year 2000 TD5 with nearly 300,000 km and it's had a few issues like a recent new turbo, a wheel bearing and a control unit for the auto-box. In Southern Germany recently, we had a starting problem and the garage (who I can't name yet, due to a claim situation) fixed the problem but in so doing, somehow moved the metal feed pipe for the power steering fluid so that it touched the (I think Airco) pulley wheel. In no time it was eaten through. They deny liability! Anyone had this issue or heard of it happening? They also fixed a small leak in the radiator and when it was reinstalled the bottom hose was left in contact with the block (or front of the engine). Within a week this too failed. Again THEY DENY LIABILITY!! So far, their mistake has cost me about Eur 900.00 extra!! So, I'd be interested to hear of any comments of similar (nightmare Garage) experiences.

DISCOVERY TD5

BOUGHT THIS 2002 DISCOVERY IN FEB 2010 AFTER OWNING A 300TDI FOR 7 YEARS TOTALY 100% RELIABLE BUT THIS NEWER MODEL IS A LOVE HATE MACHINE JUST HAD A NEW CYLINDER HEAD £1460 TO BUY THEN FITTING £718 I CANT AFFORD TO SELL NOW FANTASTIC TOWING MY 26' CARAVAN PLUS IT TOW MY 13' TIPPER TRAILER WHICH WEIGHS 3500Kg LOADED SUPERBLY BUT THE COST OF PARTS IS TRIPLE THAT OF A 300TDI SO I AM LOOKING TO GO BACKWARDS TO THAT MODEL

Rubbish TD5

I recently bought a Discovery TD5 and can confirm that when they are working, they're brilliant. But you know that just around the corner another problem will occur. I've not owned a Land Rover for 30 years, I thought that by now LR would have sorted out the reliability issue, but no! They're still crap.

disco td5

Just bought a 2001 td5 have been repairing front end damage ,battery went flat have removed air con rad to replace a panel now hill decent light abs light etc are on and air suspension is down and won't inflate, I was told to drive it for a mile and ecu should reset it self but hasn't worked does anyone have any ideas thanks steve

Good and bad

I'm on my second Disco Td5. First one was a 2000 GS and only thing that went wrong over a year and 10k miles was the sunroof leaks. Cured that easily. Bought a 2001 Td5 with 65k on the clock last year and so far have only done 2k miles and have had the following: the usual sunroof leaks, steering drag link, anti-roll bar link, turbo, all 3 ABS system lights come on periodically and now the gearbox has started making a horrible noise in 5th gear.

The dealer or the car?

We have a 2003 TD5 2. Rear suspension inflates, deflates at will. Power steering is now leaking so may be the cause of both. Will get around to looking at it in the next week or two. This aside. The Mrs took the car on the school run, ran out of diesel outside the school. She was turning it over and also flattened the battery. A guy from the AA came out, told her he wasn't a mechanic, was just helping out. Couldn't get it started. So it got towed to the local Landy dealer. Next morning the phoned saying they had replaced the battery at a cost of £180 and it's ready for collection. Two things, the old battery was fine, the Mrs had simply flattened it secondly when I inspected the car, it was drawing air and leaking diesel from the fuel filter under by the tank. Hence she ran out of diesel. But £180 for a battery that did not need replaced, An AA roadside guy that did not have a clue. At the end of the day, whats worse the Landy or the so called experts?....GRRRRR!!!!

Problem TD5

Nightmare vehicle. We had the 300TDi and all we did was change the brake pads and tyres. This TD5 has had 2 new batteries, two water pumps, one fuel pump, three or four suspension bags, the constant water leak through the roof, the rear seats wont lock down, the rear door sticks and has to be lifted to close it, there have been other minor issues and then finally last week the bolt holding the oil pump in place came loose, the crank and belt fell and effectively the engine was cooked! I think I have spent as much as I am prepared to on this damned vehicle.!!!

TD5s can be a world of pain

All sounds very familiar. I've had my 2001 TD5 for 5 years. Terrific off road, motor has been great but...snapped key, oil in the ecu, dozens of blown lights, the abs, hill descent etc lights on permanently, air bag light when I hit bumps, boot lock shot, radio electrics shot, central locking gone. oh my

1999 td5

I have owned my td5 for 5 years on a t plate and its bloody good ,returning 34 mpg, not costing me anything apart from a service one a year, did think about upgrading o tdv6 but to many horror stories about them

Love it / Hate it

Bought my 2001 TD5 in 2010 and have so far had to replace 2 front hubs (2nd one went at today's MOT), both rear air suspension bags, front brake pipes. Sunroof currently sealed up with gaffa tape to stop the interior rotting away. Steering box is leaking fluid and needs topped up weekly and I'm told a new one is around £400 ! Also broke down twice over Christmas and Green Flag unable to find fault. Seems to be bad connection to starter (flimsy Lucas-type connection). I still love the car, but its bleeding me dry !

Nightmare td5 x2

Bought a disco td5 in november 2011, within the 2 months i owned it it had, new fuel pump, sterring bars, tyres (after tracking problem killed them) new turbo, intercooler, air flow meter x2 engine wiring loom and egr removal. sold when we still couldn't cure a misfire at about 2000rpm. Then i bought a 2003 td5 with 70k on the clock from a respectable dealer. in the last three weeks i'v owned it it has been back in for, new steering bars, both front hubs, abs pump, fuel pump, sterio/cd (still not right) egr removal, power problems at less than 2000rpm, intermittent dash lights, interiuor lights and its back in again for steering trying to kill me above 60mph. The later is all under warranty but that runs out in a few months and then im going to be very poor.

my td5

03 plate td5 i love it even though its about to cost me 2 grand because of the damage caused by the last owner, who fitted the wrong clutch and added bolts to the arm to give it extra clearance, the pressure pushed the cranks and forced out the carnk washers and damaged the bottom end. but i will repair my car and be happy driving it again as i cannot afford to get rid of it now

Battery drains overnight.

New battery fitted but after 2 days runs flat. Have checked alternator output when engine is running and is putting out apprx 14 volts.

horror disco

had 2001 td5 for two wks 91.000 miles full landrover service history 12 mth mot ... steering wondering at will turbo works when it wants sunroof is leaking gears crunch air susp works now and again disco looks good impresses nieghbours but give a me a isuzu trooper any day

02 discovery td5

Bought my 02 discovery on a wednesday and on friday I had to be towed away from outside kids school. New fuel pump and filter fitted and still in garage, where they cant start it. NightMare

02 discovery td5

Bought my 02 discovery on a wednesday and on friday I had to be towed away from outside kids school. New fuel pump and filter fitted and still in garage, where they cant start it. NightMare

CONVERTING A DISCO 2

I bought a td5 disco with a conrod that went through the block, owning other land rovers (older ones) I personally believe the td5 engine is rubbish and my reasons are this - the wiring loom for the injectors wasnt very well thought out, they've tilted the engine so you can't get to the glow plugs short of taking the inlet manifold off or stripping off all the stuff from the inner wing, the oil filter is below the turbo which means you have to disconnect the exhaust in order to change a filter, well for any of you that do diy mechanics you want to do an oil change when they engines hot/warm so do you want to be putting your hands near a scalding hot turbo? the prices for parts on a td5 are 3/4 times more than all the 300tdi stuff and what do you get a bit more speed and a much bigger head ache I like the shape or the disco and how they drive so I'm planning on putting a GOOD OLD RELIABLE 300TDI lump in! from what I've seen stripping the engine down this was not an engine that was built in mind with anyone other than land rover dealers getting business for themselves. One more niggle - chassis are rubbish on the td5! mines just reached 11 years old and is already showing signs it needs welding! i have a 20 year old 200tdi disco and the chassis is perfect! and hasnt been off roaded.

TD%

We bought a TD5 from Rogers of Bedford what can I say the first thing that went was the starter motor fixed in 1 hour by Rogers only miner problems as you would expect from a 10 year old Landy the land has only covered 80,00 miles and still grab fun to this day ! Buy from a reputable cop may love it !!

TD5

I have owned my 99 TD5 from new, and can definitely say that all the problems that owners complain about in various articles are very common to this model. I have experienced every single fault mentioned and more.......if you think you have been unlucky and dealt a bad hand, just keep the vehicle for a few more years, and you will start to understand just how bad these TD5's are. I will list a few that come to mind, however, please bear in mind that this list is just a tip of the iceberg. First and foremost would be the oil pump failure. The bolt securing the sprocket comes loose.....or.....the bolt stays tight, but the sprocket, which is very thin starts to get chewed away on the drive face and eventually just spins on the oil pump drive shaft, without driving the pump. This results in a catastrophic and expensive engine failure. If you haven't yet experienced this, let me say.......'you will' The next very expensive failure would most probably be the automatic gearbox.......again, if you have not yet had this happen to you....'you will' The very well known problem of the ABS, Traction Control and Hill Descent Control being illuminated on the dash in these vehicles is something like the common cold is to us humans that just happens on a regular basis......again the repair is never cheap. The rear suspension air bags drop like flies, again costing an arm and a leg to get back up and running. The fuel pumps, which are a monument to fuel pump engineering in size and design again fail on a frequent basis....again not cheap. The radiators suffer from electrolysis.......resulting in pinholes....which then leak fluid....and need repalcing. The power steering pump piping is done in such a way that it rubs against the very sharp edges of the sump, and, with the vibration over time from the diesel, rubs through, leaving you stranded. The fuel injection wiring harness allows the engine oil to eventually leak past the connector, causing an awful oily mess, but more importantly, causing the engine to misifire and run very rough, maybe running on just 2 or 3 cylinders.....you wont get home....I promise. These few faults that spring to mind, even when fixed will re occur. It's the nature of the beast. I would like to point out that these faults are just your run of the mill every day issues. They happen without even stressing the vehicle in off road situations. Oh yes, I just remembered, the window winder mechanism's fail because of the little plastic rollers on them that collapse. Ahh, and the door lock mechanism fall apart, again, a very complicated palstic unit that just isn't up to the task....but yet costs a lot. I could go on and on......but I am sure by now you get the gist. It is not poor servicing of these vehicles, it is just the poor quality of these vehicles. My new vehicle had a warranty of 50,000 km or 6 months..........my warning bells should have started ringing then already. I almost forgot, the very expensive cylinder head failure problem......yep, another common one. If you want to drive on of these, be prepared for a very expensive and unhappy journey. I still have mine, and every time I repair it, I think to myself,'surely, nothing more can go wrong'....but ........I know now that I am simply delusional. Another failure just popped into my head...the coolant hose chafes through the airconditioning line......all the gas leaks out the system.....and yes ....it is common. Hope I have been of some help to someone. My advice to any one is, 'Don't get sucked in....it's just not worth it ' However, if you are still mad enough....buy mine !

disco td5

would just like to say a massive thank u to u all. I was just about to swop my rough but reliable f reg 110 200tdi for a very nice looking disco td5 on a X reg with all the trimmings, full leather, cruise control, hill decent, electric window's etc etc etc, BUT after reading all yr comments about the td5 problems, i think I'll stick with my old faithful. :-)

110 td5 power loss

I have a mint 110 special vehicles on a y plate spent 3000 on new spray job and all toys all Landi glass sides beautiful motor 4 inch lift then the turbo went and 2 clutches later I also have a freelander td4 amazing on and off road then tention pully bolt went omg what a job to replace and what a mess but love my landrovers so freelander going and td5 disco van next let the money spending commence

td5

brought a td5 on a 02 plate had it 2 weeks and the engine blow up also sun roof leeks cost 6000 second hand and paid 4000 to have the engine rebuilt yes complete bag of crap owes me to much money to sell so am stuck with it o and now the thermostat has packed up othe joys x

td5

I bought mine 6months ago and its been in garga most of the time.first fuel leak.then bad starting.needed new wire loom.then central locking playing up could not start car again emmoberliser not coming off .been bloody nightmare.ill touch a landy again they are crap.i still got it because its cost me too much money.i hate it

Land rover td5

Oh great this is really an eye opener i knew land rovers in general wehre unreliable didnt have an idea how bad. Ive been toying with the idea of changing my trusty Daihatsu fourtrak that is towing car transporter trailers form Aberdeen to southampton at least once a week without skippin a bit or stuttering. I should know from the number of land rovers and rang rovers i transport. I had an offer to swap with a P38 Range rover 4.0 on lpg and the thought of the creature comforts compared to the bare spartan interior of the daihatsu have been making me leave my senses. But i think in my job where im 500miles away from home in some remote country road with 3.5 tonne of trailer in tow means reliability and THE ABILITY TO GET BACK HOME TRUMPS COMFORT ANY DAY. I think i may consider a trooper instead as its slighttly more comfy for the longer journeys and has a rear seats i can use for having a nap in.

disco 2

What people forget about second hand disco's is these are designed as a work horse and thats what happens they sre abused not well maintained and then we buy them and suffer the problems not all the problems are land rovers fault. its bad maintenance we who can't afford a new land rover are the ones who keep these going at a cost so I believe its bad owners not baf land rovers.

discovery 2

had 03 discovery td5 had a defender double cab 03 defender td5 hard top with 180000 miles on mates a 1999 td5 defender hard top we have never had any of these fauld must not behaving them serviced right put 2 stroke oil in the diesel and it will help the injectors fuel pump and all the engine internals

mad td5

I run a workshop out of pine town in durban. we overhaul diesel pumps and injectors as well as have a vehicle repair shop. we have an issue with a td5 where the engine runs beautifully.. until its put into drive and then it wants to cut out and the lights on the dash keep going mad.. it does look like a gear box problem.. any thoughts friends?

Don't buy one

Well another Sunday spent getting my td5 towed to the garage, I too recognise everyone of the above problems and after spending thousands and thousands, can only say don't ever. Ever buy one, great when they work but there is not a month goes bye without me having a Major repair.

Td5 rust

Just failed mot on my 2004 td5 chassis as almost splite in to at the back end . Rest of car was fine and past test . But when put on ramp to repair the holes in it is unreal for a ten year old car .... Water leaks in sun roofs and doors want open with out climbing in and opening them from inside , I also paid good cash for this to tow my caravan etc , it was my first and last landrover that I will be buying .... Going jap from now on . Still in garage and cost mounting up by the hour £1200 so far ... Unreal

Ohhhh

Well what can I say ? I was about to look over a td5 disco full spec on Monday 3rd march it has more chrome on it than any American truck you will ever come across. But thanks to you all for such input but where do I go from here I sold my Mitsubishi L200 and would NEVER have another.... PLEASE HELP you may see me on the side of the road... Thanks all..

Starting problem

Had a fuel problem changed fuel harness fuel pump oil change oil filters got it running mot it taxed done 100 miles ran fine went out next day wouldn't start been told to change crank case senser any advice on problem

buying a td5

I am thinking of buying a 2003 TD5 with 71000 on the clock and fsh. Tell me honestly am I mad?

LR TD5

I have been reading through the comments and note that most bought their TD5's secondhand. I have owned mine from new it's a 2003 ES7 with now 124K miles. Yes, its had some problems and the sunroofs leaked, the air suspension SLS I changed recently (it's recommended changing it at 10 years), I note the track rod end needs changing now and I'm now getting the ABS 3 Amigo lights so the ABS modulator needs electrically modifying due to a common fault. However, if you buy a secondhand LR without a really thorough checkover you will have issues as with many other vehicles and you also need to be competent with serious DIY mechanics not just servicing after the first few years. In all honesty I expect some issues but nothing I have experienced is anyway extraordinary in an 11 year old 124K miles vehicle. Like all things you get what you pay for. The things that do niggle most are firstly the supercilious attitudes of LR main dealers, failure of the the PAS pipe rubbing the engine sump and leaking, the third set of perforated fuel lines (the first subject of a recall), the leaking sunroofs as a known fault by LR, regular failure of the door locking mechanisms and finally the failure of the Satnav disc to eject on the second new unit. These are either poor design issues or poor quality parts. In all honesty, my 20 year old Pajero import is better built than the TD5 and it cost me a tenth of the price. I am progressively updating the TD5 as by todays standards it's now relatively worthless but would I buy another Landrover after owning many over the past 40 years, hmmm, I'm not too sure anymore.

Engine fire td5

My Disco 2 td5 just had an engine fire ! Flame seemed to come from the pump environs left hand front of engine, perhaps I should not have extinguished it but I really need to have an idea of what the f**k is the cause before I get into the clutches of Ali Barber and the forty garage men.

2002 td5

can anyone tell me why the brake pedal on my auto td5 kicks back when it reaches 55mph and at no other speed ?? really doing my head in now as even L/R can,t explain it ... yet they built it

FFs

Electrics knackered boot door won't open, passenger side does not unlock rear seat not unfolding sunroof leaking making a whirring noise just spent 180 quid on a pump and it's still making a noise what more can I say bag of £&@&

TD5 - Faults so Far

In no particular order, issues with 2002 TD5, ES, 5 seat, auto, purchased used 6 years ago from a LR dealership, now on 120k miles; 1) Door lock failures (3nr) - won't open / close 2) Boot lock failures (twice) - only operate from inside 3) Window regulator failures (3nr) - usual plastic runners snapping rendering window inoperable 4) PAS box (3nr) - complete failures 5) Oil in ECU through harness (once) - miss-fire, new harness 6) Leaking sunroof - seal failed between sunroof and body 7) AC pipes chafed, loss of gas 8) Transfer box leak 9) heated windscreen failure (issue with car, not screen) 10) Wheel arch trims falling off 11) Radiator top hose failure around the bleed screw 12) Dash bulbs blowing on monthly basis 13) Damped crank pulley failure - £500 for the part alone!!! How can 2 bits of steel held together with 1 bit of rubber be this much!!! 14) Blown headlamp washer circuit 15) Saggy headlining - a problem with the foam degrading apparently. 16) Active Cornering Enhancement light on for no good reason (goes off when ignition switched off) 17) Dropped rear door hinges – rear door leaks and jams. All in all, a potentially great vehicle but seriously compromised in terms of both detail design and quality. On the plus side, I now have a great relationship with my local Land Rover specialist in Bury St Edmunds - great guys, highly recommended!

Range Rover sport

My Sport HSE 2007 was beig driven by me the other night when the HDC light came on out of the blue . Stuck on a roundabout i travelled no more thean 40 yards to a service road with the car giving out black smoke. I have been told that a fuel injector failure has caused the engine management to cause this...is this true!!!

Discovery TD5

Wow these Discovery TD5's are giving some grief! My advice if you are thinking of getting one, is to sack it and buy a Defender. I owned a 2006 TD5 from new and have just sold it for £15,000 (we only psid £19,250 eight years ago) We never had any trouble with it at all, and the only reason l sold it was that l wanted a 110. I bought a 2005 110 and looking at the service history it has only had one spurious bill in nine years, the "diesel pressure regulator" which cost the previous owner £300. The only problem now, is finding a good one. Many have had a hard life, being used for what they were designed for. But good ones are out there (never been off road, waxoyled from new etc)

Discovery TD5

Was thinking buying a 2001 TD5 for Young Explorers Foundation but after reading owners experience's not to sure
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